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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 6 @ 10:29 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Opportunistic Devils Pick Apart Flyers, 5-0
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Feb 6 @ 10:38 PM ET
Not much to say about this one other than it was a giant missed opportunity.
Beat Washington and everyone forgets this game.
Lose against Washington and the pressure really starts to build.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Feb 6 @ 10:40 PM ET
Lose one game and the sky is falling 😂 typical flyers thread. Glad I wasn’t there
CupOnBroadSt.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.23.2012

Feb 6 @ 10:50 PM ET
As long as they don't look at this at the trade deadline, and just say oh well, I'm fine with it. The entire organization can use tonight's game as a learning experience.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 6 @ 10:56 PM ET
As long as they don't look at this at the trade deadline, and just say oh well, I'm fine with it. The entire organization can use tonight's game as a learning experience.
- CupOnBroadSt.


Easier said than done. They will have to create cap space to acquire much of anything. And if they are going for a rental type, what assets are they giving up, and how much of a difference is that player likely to make?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 6 @ 11:54 PM ET
Easier said than done. They will have to create cap space to acquire much of anything. And if they are going for a rental type, what assets are they giving up, and how much of a difference is that player likely to make?
- bmeltzer

*If* anything happens I think it's likely Ghost is the one getting dealt. He's got some value and it frees up cap space for them to do something. I just don't see how anything else could be moved at the deadline to create much cap space...

I still think it's doubtful they get anything done in season. The biggest thing they can do is keep guys healthy and hope Patrick makes it back on the ice this season.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:03 AM ET
flyers poop the bed against a bottom feeder and the isles and canes win. shocking.
Keith25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DANBURY, CT
Joined: 02.07.2017

Feb 7 @ 6:09 AM ET
Big changes coming this summer. Voracek is gone, Giroux extended or traded, hope he doesn't asks for more than 4M per, if he has a self-reflection (I know he has still 2 years left but man those hurt whole team). Nothing matters of those 2 albatrosses sink the whole team.
Those 2 items need to be addressed and we can be contender next season. Hope it is done by draft!
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Feb 7 @ 6:55 AM ET
Big changes coming this summer. Voracek is gone, Giroux extended or traded, hope he doesn't asks for more than 4M per, if he has a self-reflection (I know he has still 2 years left but man those hurt whole team). Nothing matters of those 2 albatrosses sink the whole team.
Those 2 items need to be addressed and we can be contender next season. Hope it is done by draft!

- Keith25


I think Voracek is always trying to be to cute with the puck. Great skater but Jesus on a bike with the cute crap. I think he is gone this summer.

I don't dislike G but I question his leadership and his applicability to push the right players at the right time.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 7 @ 7:35 AM ET
Lose one game and the sky is falling 😂 typical flyers thread. Glad I wasn’t there
- Richieattack18

And it should fall. Canes and the Blow Joe’s looks to good and stable.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 7 @ 7:38 AM ET
JVR, G, Konecny need to contribute! Fast!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 7:40 AM ET
Big changes coming this summer. Voracek is gone, Giroux extended or traded, hope he doesn't asks for more than 4M per, if he has a self-reflection (I know he has still 2 years left but man those hurt whole team). Nothing matters of those 2 albatrosses sink the whole team.
Those 2 items need to be addressed and we can be contender next season. Hope it is done by draft!


- Keith25


It is not possible to extend Giroux this summer.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 7 @ 7:44 AM ET
Big changes coming this summer. Voracek is gone, Giroux extended or traded, hope he doesn't asks for more than 4M per, if he has a self-reflection (I know he has still 2 years left but man those hurt whole team). Nothing matters of those 2 albatrosses sink the whole team.
Those 2 items need to be addressed and we can be contender next season. Hope it is done by draft!

- Keith25

G extended?!?! 🤯
prominal88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NEWTOWN SQ, PA
Joined: 01.13.2020

Feb 7 @ 7:47 AM ET
Bill - You are the only person I can listen to re: Flyers. Help me understand what’s happening with G? I mean the guy can’t even skate anymore. And that first play off the draw last night, you can’t be serious. He has been, by far, the biggest disappointment this year. I think he would be a healthy scratch if not for wearing the C, that’s how bad he has been.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 7:49 AM ET
Bill - You are the only person I can listen to re: Flyers. Help me understand what’s happening with G? I mean the guy can’t even skate anymore. And that first play off the draw last night, you can’t be serious. He has been, by far, the biggest disappointment this year. I think he would be a healthy scratch if not for wearing the C, that’s how bad he has been.
- prominal88



I think he has had a disappointing season for sure but you're drastically overstating it.

If he was scratched, who can they play that is a better option?
Keith25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DANBURY, CT
Joined: 02.07.2017

Feb 7 @ 8:01 AM ET
I think he has had a disappointing season for sure but you're drastically overstating it.

If he was scratched, who can they play that is a better option?

- MJL



Giroux should play 3Q instead of Hyes, like yesterday. If he doesn't turn it around. I would strongly consider buy out in summer. He is worse this season than Lecavalier and Simmonds in their last seasons with Flyers combined.

With Giroux and Voracek from this season so far, we should not even try to compete for play off. Period!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 8:03 AM ET
Giroux should play 3Q instead of Hyes, like yesterday. If he doesn't turn it around. I would strongly consider buy out in summer. He is worse this season than Lecavalier and Simmonds in their last seasons with Flyers combined.

With Giroux and Voracek from this season so far, we should not even try to compete for play off. Period!

- Keith25


No offense but you're greatly embarrassing yourself here.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 7 @ 8:12 AM ET
The only major move I'd make before the TDL is to fire Michel Therrien. It's inexcusable for our powerplay to be this bad with the players that we have. Some of the powerplays last night were some of the worst powerplays I have seen.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 8:17 AM ET
The only major move I'd make before the TDL is to fire Michel Therrien. It's inexcusable for our powerplay to be this bad with the players that we have. Some of the powerplays last night were some of the worst powerplays I have seen.
- arichardson22



I completely agree that I have not been impressed with the PP alignment and strategy this season under Therrien. Let's be honest though, that performance on the PP and overall last night, is not on any of the coaches.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 7 @ 8:18 AM ET
flyers poop the bed against a bottom feeder and the isles and canes win. shocking.
- hammarby31


But both the Islanders and Canes were down by two goals.
It's possible to get two points when that happens?

So here we are on February 7, the Flyers are in 6th place in the division, and two of their young players may never play again. No one would have signed on for this back in the summer.
jsh139
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly 'burbs, PA
Joined: 06.22.2017

Feb 7 @ 8:22 AM ET
Big changes coming this summer. Voracek is gone, Giroux extended or traded, hope he doesn't asks for more than 4M per, if he has a self-reflection (I know he has still 2 years left but man those hurt whole team). Nothing matters of those 2 albatrosses sink the whole team.
Those 2 items need to be addressed and we can be contender next season. Hope it is done by draft!

- Keith25


Giroux is not getting traded. He has a NMC and has said multiple times he would not waive it.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 7 @ 8:51 AM ET
Embarrassing loss and the fact that I am saying it should show how bad it was.

Myers was awful, coincidentally after someone was praising him for his play of late

Ghost was his same self. Bobbling pucks, taking his time to shoot, shooting not picking his shots(shooting when a guy is clearly in position to block) and missing the net

Top 6 forwards were MIA.

PP was absolutely disgusting. How long is this PP going to be deemed acceptable? It is atrocious and frankly at this point whomever is running the PP should be fired(Cant recall if it is Therrien or Yeo). PP is literally the worst combination of players I have ever seen

Elliott was not at his best. Some of those goals were stoppable.

Voracek missing that wide open net basically summed up the game. As AV said anything that could go wrong did but the team did not do itself any favours
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Feb 7 @ 8:58 AM ET
The only major move I'd make before the TDL is to fire Michel Therrien. It's inexcusable for our powerplay to be this bad with the players that we have. Some of the powerplays last night were some of the worst powerplays I have seen.
- arichardson22


I agree with this. Some change has to be made. AV made mention again post game about how bad the PP is. It is just difficult to make major changes , again, this time of year but I don’t think they have a choice. Perhaps Yeo , or AV himself should give it a shot. G is back on the left side, no difference. Bring back Joe Mullen.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 7 @ 9:01 AM ET
Yup, terrible loss. When you consider the upcoming games on the schedule, I felt like they had to win this one.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 7 @ 9:03 AM ET
Yup, terrible loss. When you consider the upcoming games on the schedule, I felt like they had to win this one.
- Ftown19125


Don't worry. The Red Wings will win in C-Bus tonight. I'm guessing it will be 6-0.
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